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Segment confirmed, added to TM, then edited, and reconfirmed but DOUBLES are made instead of being overwritten

Hello,

One of my team members has been experiencing this problem which I've never seen before and honestly thought was impossible. I can't replicate this phenomenon on my own computer so I don't know which settings were changed on her computer to result in this. 

Trados Studio interface showing a segment with the text '(In parenthesis, the LCD display is explained.) the the' confirmed and entered into the TM.

To test the problem she told me about, I typed "(In parenthesis, the LCD display is explained.) the the" and confirmed the segment and it entered the TM. Then I immediately deleted "the the" and confirmed the segment but instead of overwriting the segment and showing a CM/100 match, it shows both most recently confirmed hits with a -1 duplicate penalty. I thought such penalties would only apply to duplicates from different TMs. But this is the same TM and same project so I'm very lost as I thought this went against the very core of Trados's code. Please assist.



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[edited by: Trados AI at 3:57 PM (GMT 0) on 28 Feb 2024]
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  • I wonder if it's related to the use of Lookahead? Perhaps the original result is still cached and causes you this problem when you change it immediately.

    Try turning off Lookahead and see if this still happens. You might have to close the file and open again after changing the setting, just to be sure. I'm not sure when Studio holds onto some settings and when not so worth making sure.

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  • Okay. I did Skype screen sharing with my coworker and worked through the setting changes (not incredibly computer literate). To both of our shock, this worked. Thank you, Paul. Turning off Lookahead, then repeating changes and confirmations to the same segment showed just a CM or 100% hit in the results window. No duplicates. As it should be. We turned Lookahead back on and it worked normal, with no duplicates, much to her surprise as well (can't stress this enough). It generally worked fine except a couple times after changing one segment, the same segment would show the previously confirmed edit, not the new one, but not as a duplicate. Just 100% match of an old hit despite confirm a new version of it. This was with Lookahead on, and I know that sometimes there's a lag with the search results so refreshing the view would fix it. I forgot how to refresh the results window (Ctrl something?) but changing the TM project settings a couple of times and it refreshed and worked again. Hopefully, in the future, this lag can be fixed confirming a segment will refresh the results automatically.

    Side note: When not translating myself, I spend a decent chunk of my time troubleshooting for my coworkers... to the point where I take regular support tours to their workplaces to help, fix, teach, and refresh their memories hands-on. Despite my role as the ad hoc expert within the company, I would never have guessed that "resetting" lookahead would fix it. I often encounter problems that baffle me so I just end up apologizing on behalf of the software (it was my idea to use trados in the company so I feel responsible). So yeah, forgive the constructive feedback, but some solutions are not instinctive to me and even less obvious to my less computer-literate, Japanese speaking co-workers. 

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  • Okay. I did Skype screen sharing with my coworker and worked through the setting changes (not incredibly computer literate). To both of our shock, this worked. Thank you, Paul. Turning off Lookahead, then repeating changes and confirmations to the same segment showed just a CM or 100% hit in the results window. No duplicates. As it should be. We turned Lookahead back on and it worked normal, with no duplicates, much to her surprise as well (can't stress this enough). It generally worked fine except a couple times after changing one segment, the same segment would show the previously confirmed edit, not the new one, but not as a duplicate. Just 100% match of an old hit despite confirm a new version of it. This was with Lookahead on, and I know that sometimes there's a lag with the search results so refreshing the view would fix it. I forgot how to refresh the results window (Ctrl something?) but changing the TM project settings a couple of times and it refreshed and worked again. Hopefully, in the future, this lag can be fixed confirming a segment will refresh the results automatically.

    Side note: When not translating myself, I spend a decent chunk of my time troubleshooting for my coworkers... to the point where I take regular support tours to their workplaces to help, fix, teach, and refresh their memories hands-on. Despite my role as the ad hoc expert within the company, I would never have guessed that "resetting" lookahead would fix it. I often encounter problems that baffle me so I just end up apologizing on behalf of the software (it was my idea to use trados in the company so I feel responsible). So yeah, forgive the constructive feedback, but some solutions are not instinctive to me and even less obvious to my less computer-literate, Japanese speaking co-workers. 

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