Subtitling: Line is missing in Subtitling Data

Question

Dear Team, 
 I've installed the Subtitling Plugin, loaded my .srt- and .mp4-file, and opened the Subtitling Preview and Subtitling Data. 
 When starting the translation, I noticed that in the Subtitling Data line 2 is missing, see: 
 
 Even though it is displayed correctly in the editor, see: 
 
 The content of line 2 was somehow shifted to line 1, so, I'd now have to split line 1 to create line 2. 
 Is this possible? 
 Many thanks in advance for your support and best wishes, 
 Janina

Paul Filkin · Answer

Janina Wittmann 
 No, I mean the actual SRT file. Just take a copy and anonymise the words you don't want me to see in the first few lines and then copy paste whatever you see in the SRT file. It'll be something like this: 
 1 00:00:00,250 --> 00:00:14,930 Some text here 
 2 00:00:11,770 --> 00:00:14,930 Some more text here 
 3 00:00:23,460 --> 00:00:26,989 And a bit more text here 
 I just want to see what the original file looks like as this is clearly affecting something in the preview.

Paul Filkin · Answer

Janina Wittmann 
 ok... I&rsquo;m not at my computer right now, but based on this I&rsquo;d take a look at the line breaks. It could be that copy pasting from word has brought in Chars that are not being picked up correctly. If you put them on one line for a test it&rsquo;ll validate the problem. Then you can try using a different type of line break. If you show the line break chars in your text editor you&rsquo;ll be able to see what they are. 
 I&rsquo;ll try to reproduce later on. If you can anonymise the file and provide a sample with just a few lines it would be easier to test as I&rsquo;d be starting with the real problem and won&rsquo;t have to try and find a way to recreate it.

Paul Filkin · Answer

Janina Wittmann 
 Like that it works: 
 
 But that isn't the file you have problems with because you've removed the break. If you can do this I can investigate this more easily: 
 
 take a copy of the original srt you have created 
 delete everything in the file apart from the first 6 subtitles 
 remove the words that are private 
 zip the file and attach it to this thread

Paul Filkin · Answer

Hi Janina Wittmann 
 
 ok - now I can reproduce your problem. But it is correct: 
 
 If you arrange the preview columns like the above and include the "Text" it's a bit easier to understand what's happening. Segment #1 and #2 in Studio are actually subtitle ID 1 but Studio will segment them because of the full stop. So this: 
 
 becomes this: 
 
 But i the preview it's this: 
 
 I think the reason you think the second one is missing is because the numbers you are looking at reflect the Studio segment numbering and not the subtitle ID. So in this case the subtitle starts on segment #1. The # column is showing you which segment each subtitle starts on. 
 The same thing occurs on segment #8 where the subtitle ID#6 starts on segment #7. 
 There is one problem I can see, in that when you add the ID column to the preview it should display the ID of the subtitle, but it doesn't. That might have made it a bit easier to follow. So it's currently blank like this: 
 
 It should be like this: 
 
 Hopefully this explains the problem for you and I'll log the issue of the missing ID numbers for resolution.

Paul Filkin · Answer

Janina Wittmann 
 It is possible, but be very careful with this because Studio itself will not let you undo! This is a problem that needs to be resolved as test splitting as part of a normal spotting process should be a given. 
 In the case of your file if you want to split it then you would split the segments in Studio and this will split the time codes and create the additional subtitle with the new timecodes if this is really what you want? 
 Given you already have the segmentation because of the full stop I think the easiest way to work with this is to use paragraph segmentation on your TM instead of the default. This way when you open the file you'll have this effect instead of what you have now: 
 
 Note that now you have one Studio segment for each subtitle. If you split the segment you get this: 
 
 Now you have seven subtitles instead of six and seven segments instead of six, But note that the numbering is still different. Please excuse me for saying this again (I just want to be sure you don't make a mistake), but you really should be sure you understand what is happening here because when you do this your subtitle file will now look like this: 
 
 Note that the structure of the file is changed as you now have these sentences being shown after each other as opposed to both being on the screen at the same time.

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Subtitling: Line is missing in Subtitling Data