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Find inconsistencies in a TM

Hi everyone

I would like to know if there is a way to find inconsistencies (in target) in a TM (could xbench be of any help??).

Any advice is welcome :)

Xavier

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  • My point is that it's still way better than doing it in the Studio TM editor ;-).
    If you want to find inconsistencies across multiple TMs, you can simply merge the TMXs and work on the merged one(s).
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member in reply to Evzen Polenka
    yes you're right
    your point is still alive.

    and my point still alive too.
    the process "sdltm > tmx > sdltm" is needless heavy burden.
  • Hi Evzen,

    I haven't used Olifant for a long time, though I did enjoy its functionality. The reason I stopped using it was because Olifant eradicated TM fields containing data that the client did not want to lose. I chatted with an Olifant developer and he said this might change in the future. I'm interested to know if it is now possible to work on tmx files in Olifant without losing the TM field properties?

    Thanks!
    Ali :)
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member in reply to Alison Field

    sounds like that is the real dark side of it.

    if it still has Fields problem, forget about it. Period.

  • Former Member
    0 Former Member in reply to Former Member

    it says its latest version is "2009 April 29"
    oh, that's enough

  • Alison Field said:
    I'm interested to know if it is now possible to work on tmx files in Olifant without losing the TM field properties?

    I don't really know, to be honest... never needed to care about this for my purposes. And since I moved from the loc industry (working again with bosses/owners who DO have a clue is so relieving!), I don't have much chances for further experiments.

    Martin Jornan said:
    it says its latest version is "2009 April 29"
    oh, that's enough

    Are you under 20, considering everything older than one week to be "out"... or what?
    I'm using some decade-old tools, and they work better than many today's sh*tty lame products.
    Ten/twenty years old tools used to be properly thought-through straight at the beginning, so don't need zillions of weird every-other-day "agile" updates :-\

  • Hi Evzen,

    It's good to be in contact with you again, I've been sooo busy that I haven't had time to help or communicate with anyone on the Community and I miss it. I miss reading your knowledge. I love learning from others. I also love helping & teaching others. I've seen you do both and that is good.

    As it happens, the client I was thinking of DOES have a clue because they are the best, most technically-up-to-date client you could wish for but they are obliged to work within our increasingly tight national legal requirements for accountability and thus all data used has to retain its path of origin, its ongoing history and so forth. Now we have the 'new improved' data protection act in the UK, we have to be even more careful. Don't get me started...

    TBF, if working on my own TMs I am pleased to use Olifant because it really is a great piece of kit, straight out of the box from when I first started using it a long time ago, but I don't often need to.

    Regarding decade-old tools, yes and no... (stating the obvious, I know) it depends whether the tool needs to interact with or provide content that will be used by the latest technology. We can't control what software houses decide to produce next and there's no point getting stressed with complaining about stuff we can't change. It is all about economy really, 'one size fits all' is considered to be the best anyone can do, realistically, in the current economical climate. Probably rightly so.

    SDL's products aren't perfect but are any? At least with SDL we get a chance to put forward our ideas and ask for change. I for one feel I have a voice and that I'm listened to. I actually have seen a suggestion positively acted upon and implemented. So, with the balanced opinion that I'm in a minority of one, the fact that it has happened pleases me greatly.

    Looking forward to learning more from you in the future,
    All the best,
    Ali
  • Former Member
    0 Former Member in reply to Former Member

    i have tested that "2009" Olifant
    it recognizes all fields of SDL Trados Studio correctly.
    that is good enough.

    but, if you want to use them (my sdltm has lots, lots of fields) again,
    you have to make all and every of them "Again" when you import it into SDL Trados Studio.
    that is pure nonsense.
    so, i guess, field problem lies at SDL's "2017" side.
    i do not think it's a bug, it's just another difficulties.

    i could be wrong, because i have used Olifant less than 5 minutes.
    if you know better idea about it tell me, i'll check it out, for sure. 

    And, Do not mention others age like this, that is dirty attitude. 

     

    In short
    I am not going to use the old "Olifant"
    In itself it works well. But, it's not good at with SDL Traods Studio 2017.

  • Martin Jornan said:
    but, if you want to use them (my sdltm has lots, lots of fields) again,
    you have to make all and every of them "Again" when you import it into SDL Trados Studio.
    that is pure nonsense.

     

    This is not really nonsense.  The problem with using TMX is that it lists all the fields you used for that TMX but it carries no information about what should actually be in the TM.  For example, your TM could be set up for 5 different types of fields and 10 different possible picklist values in each field.  The TMX export may not actually contain all the fields or all the values so when you share that TMX with someone else they will not get the same TM as the one you have.

    Maybe make use of a Language Resource Template and then you will be able to recreate your TMs quickly and reliably?

    Martin Jornan said:
    And, Do not mention others age like this, that is dirty attitude. 

    I don't agree with this.  TMX is a really old exchange filetype that has been used for decades and it hasn't changed for around a decade.  So why wouldn't you use a piece of software that was designed to handle old formats like this if you see fit?  I've played a round with Heartsome and it has some good qualities, but I still find Olifant to be more stable than that despite its age.  It's still used as part of the Okapi framework by many localization engineers today.

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member in reply to Paul Filkin
    ok
    that is good enough under this post
    i do not want to talk about it any more too

    i really hate to converting something.
    if you can handle it using sdltm directly do it so.
    or if you like tmx so much, makes it as "Default".

    regards